.or, the “Teal & Orange” syndrome has infected more directors than we could think of! (^^,)
(link to a couple blog entries – Into the Abyss – Not on Blu-Ray)
Many are aware there are some Blu-ray titles that have altered colors in comparison to DVD (or other sources), but which ones are affected?
If you think/feel/suspect that a given BD titles has the wrong color writing, what are the options?
- Stick with the DVD (or other source) even if definition is worse.
- Wait for a new edition with the right color grading – it happens… sometimes!
- Watch a fan preservation project.
Well, option 1 is up to you… when option 2 is available, a reissue: note will be added, followed by the specific BD version; when option 3 is available, a fan project note will be added.
MOVIES WITH *DIFFERENT* COLOR GRADING – UPDATED LIST: 2014-01-17
movie title – type of color grading problem, if known – options
A.I. Artificial Intelligence
Ace Ventura 2
Alien vs. Predator: Requiem – too dark
Aliens – blue cast
Army of Darkness – few differences
Beauty and the Beast – fan project WIP
Big Trouble In Little China
Bram Stoker’s Dracula
A Clockwork Orange
Curse of Frankenstein
The Day After Tomorrow – few differences
Daylight – few differences
Do the Right Thing – too “natural” look
Duck You Sucker – very green/brownish and washed out
Escape from New York – blue cast + warmed colors – fan project
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial – few differences
Eyes Wide Shut
The Exorcist – various type – fan project
The Fifth Element – few differences
The French Connection – “pastel” look – reissue: BestBuy exclusive BD
Gladiator – few differences
Godzilla – few differences
The Great Escape – Teal & Orange
Halloween – too “natural” look Vs THX DVD – fan project
Hellboy – few differences
Horror of Dracula – too cold
Jurassic Park – fan project
Léon (a.k.a. The Professional)
Lord of The Rings (extended edition) – green cast
Night of the Living Dead (1990)
A Nightmare on Elm Street
Mad Max 2 (a.k.a. The Road Warrior)
Minority Report – too “natural” look – fan project WIP
The Mask – too saturated
The Matrix – green cast to match sequels – fan project
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World’s End – few differences
Raiders of the Lost Ark – gold
The Silence of the Lambs – colder than CC DVD
Soylent Green – too green (^^,)
Stargate – few differences
The Ten Commandments
Terminator 2: Judgement Day
Terminator 3: Rise of The Machines
The Thing – blue cast on whites + warmed colors – fan project
Total Recall (1990) – fan project WIP
Waterworld – few differences
modern Bond transfers (of old titles) have all wrong colors (but I need titles…)
notes: few differences = sometimes are barely noticeable, other times limited only to some scenes – it depends by the equipments used, the calibration made, and the eyes of the viewers…
warning: the fact that a Blu-ray has a *different* color grading does not necessarily means that it’s wrong! Maybe is how the director wanted it, but at least we have the knowledge of the existence of different versions (color wise) and we could make our choice.
about fan preservation projects: DON’T ASK, DON’T TELL!
If you are aware of a fan preservation project that resolved the color grading problems AND it is released in Blu-ray format in high definition, just mention the eventual version but DON’T post link or reference to web sites or other places where it could be obtained. Even if a fan preservation project could be considered “fair use”, it is still a grey area so it’s better to be safe than sorry! And remember: if you want to watch a fan preservation project, you must obtain it FOR FREE and you SHOULD OWN the commercial edition: piracy will be not tolerated!
Any correction, addition, opinion, link to screenshot comparison is welcome!
Please write the movie titles in bold, as it will be easier to find them.
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OK, clearly I was “a bit” leaned toward the fact the BDs in the list have *wrong* color grading… and with wrong, maybe I should have written “wrong to me (and many others)”…
It’s hard to tell – if not impossible – “which is which” right or wrong in absolute terms… I mean, let’s say that a movie states “THIS has the RIGHT color grading…” blah blah blah “… approved by DOP…”
Now, is the color grading of the BD title right, because it was the same as shown in the theaters in the days of release, or it is right because the DOP wanted it to look like it, but it was not possible to achieve that result at that time?
http://www.dvdmg.com/halloween.shtml (about 1999 THX DVD)
http://halloweenmovies.com/2013/06/11/dean-cundey-to-supervise-35th-ann-blu-ray-transfer (about 35th Anniversary BD)
Which version is right? Which is wrong? “A picture is worth a thousand words”…
top 35th Ann. BD, bottom BD with 1999 THX DVD color grading:
…to me, the right version is at bottom, as trees in fall season should have these colors; yes, the top is good, and has natural colors, but doesn’t serve the mood of the movie…
I would say that grain is a problem, but the grain visible is obviously a product of the bleach-bypass process used to achieve the film’s amazing look.
http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/minority-report2.html (about DVD)
http://www.tcm.com/this-month/article.html?isPreview=&id=650696|648300&name=Minority-Report (about DVD)
Steven Spielberg was also closely involved in the remastering and the resulting HDCAM-SR master represents how the creative team want the movie to be seen by viewers today.
http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=4078 (about BD)
top BD, bottom BD with DVD color grading:
C’mon, let’s face it: if the Roaring Twenties were in black&white, 2054 SHOULD be cold&blue…
top BD, bottom BD with DVD color grading:
… I don’t think Neo was supposed to be the next Twilight superstar!
Escape from New York:
top US BD, bottom HDTV:
Should the flame have this color in the top image?
top HD-DVD (same color grading as BD, but with less DNR and more grain intact, bottom HD-DVD with LD color grading:
Do you love pink snow? I do not.
Now, pick your poison…
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Some interesting links to find out color grading differences:
Thank you Sue ?